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Dave Stewart's avatar

Coal and Gas have no real environmental impact,dig a hole transport wash and burn, no visible pollution or waste, and invisible CO2 is used by plants, as opposed to wind and solar and excessive power line infrastructure, I wouldn't like to be responsible for the waste in 20 years or less.

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Nigel Southway's avatar

yes the supply chain for the raw materials for W&S and EV batteries plus the disposal at EOL will be far worse ... Nuclear is always the best option ...

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Dave Stewart's avatar

Why don't most people realise this, have they somehow been conditioned to hate fossil fuels.

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L.G. Oja's avatar

Nigel,

Your summation of the situation is cognizant of data agreed upon by just over 1100 climate scientists -my last count, GLOBAL CLIMATE INTELLIGENCE GROUP

I was told long ago that in order to “control” the population the government has to keep the commoners struggling to earn a living and keep them ill-informed and SCARED. -so they have no time to do their own research, which could lead to questions, protest, and revolution.

Ergo, high taxes and media control.

Seems to work, till it doesn’t.

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Nigel Southway's avatar

Things are changing a bit!

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Pirate david's avatar

indeedy

but the delusional religious believers are many

indoctrinated in the youth indoctrination camps

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Peter Wiggins's avatar

I totally agree, the data you provide and the two films are evidence in themselves provided by scientists and specialists of undeniable backgrounds. What we must all understand is that despite the science proving that the ‘climate emergency’ claimed by major bodies, the UN and supported by governments and media is a total sham and falsehood, there is a deeper more sinister plan with it all. If you delve deep into historical narratives, the outputs from numerous (connected) nefarious bodies (aka Club of Rome, UNCED, WEF, Trilateral Commission etc) you find the promotion of a Climate Emergency/Global Warming/Climate Change and the demonisation of CO2! In fact one of these documents details the procurement of a prominent sympathetic psychologist to look at ways of influencing and controlling populations, one of his recommendations was a climate emergency where CO2 was promoted as a toxin! If you follow that on with untold wealth being available you get educational establishments and scientists being ‘bought’, politicians being sponsored, climate pressure groups (aka Greenpeace, Just Stop Oil etc) being covertly created, the likes of Greta Thumberg coming onto the scene, etc etc. Given enough planning, wealth and infiltration you can achieve what we have today! The media, governments, educational establishments, UN etc all following the narrative. If you dare speak out about it you are a pariah! The whole climate emergency scenario is a sham to control populations, restrict movement, control what we eat, restrict personal transport, limit energy use and on and on. We must wake the wider populations up to this scam before it’s too late!

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Nigel Southway's avatar

Peter

I agree some sinisterness is in the background but the UN and the WEF are fast falling out of favor as many nations go nation-centric.

Less than two years ago I was in despair that the climate alarmist would carry the climate emergency religion to its final conclusion with disaster for our western prosperity and even our civilization.

But in the last 6 months I have seen politics change mainly in the Americas (USA Canada Argentina) with some EU nations turning a bit (Holland for example, and maybe Germany) but the EU as a whole and certainly the UK are still on the wrong page and did not read the memo yet. But its happening.. the policies will not be NetZero in most nations soon…. And we will be in the USA and Canada be singing “drill baby drill” to a better prosperity..

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Peter Wiggins's avatar

Yes indeed Nigel, there is some light at the end of the tunnel. But I’m still concerned the sinister ’cabal’ with billions to spend will work a flanker rearguard action! We need to wake up more people to call out the BS!

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Nigel Southway's avatar

Agreed .... That's why we are still writing articles and pushing climate reality with our politicos.

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Scott McKie's avatar

I definitely agree with you on that -- because a lot of it was for "profits only" - "in my opinion".

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Scott McKie's avatar

Hi Nigel -- that's a fair analysis and I won't be around to see what happens.

History, however, has shown that humans - have always initially taken the easy way out of anything that is hard. - and this time - that will have World-wide consequences.

The Earth will continue - as will the animal world - as they have had millions of years to evolve.

But humans don't handle the increasing heat as fast as this, as is already being demonstrated.

Disagreements don't matter a bit in real scheme of things.

But continued inaction does (in my opinion) -- because when it gets to where really lots of people start to die from the increasing heat -- I would rather be working towards trying to fix the problem by "not trying to replace the existing system -- but simply make available the Tesla based POD MOD system adding to the available power.

It is simple Academic self-centered Hubris and financial position:

--- by those that think they will lose stature or position; that deny the fact that they have been denying the existence of the POD MOD technology

--- by incorrectly teaching that there is no alternative to the 170 year old dictum concerning what an electric power supply can do;

--- thus keeping the technology unavailable:

--- knowing full well that they are wrong.

A POD MOD can be installed in hours, not days - and they can be easily mass produced - again - which you know - because you have the information.

All I have been asking - is to add it to the available electric power mix.

There is no honorable reason not to do that -- and that is not opinion.

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Nigel Southway's avatar

I agree that good solutions will always be welcome but the panic action is out for sure..

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Dougie 4's avatar

Nothing that happens at a glacial speed (pun intended) can be an emergency.

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Nigel Southway's avatar

yep...

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Scott McKie's avatar

Hi Nigel -- a lot of us have to disagree with you - on a couple of areas.

First -- quoting a lot of sources doesn't help - because you know as well as we do that the "choices" as almost always made to substantiate one's own opinion.

Secondly -- the means to reach net zero - is available - and you've got the info on how to achieve it.

So whether or not you agree with the info - is again a conscientious decision to disagree. - which you are perfectly entitled to do.

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Nigel Southway's avatar

Hi Scott

I am not expecting agreement…. but I am showing that the game is up on a blind acceptance that we do have a climate emergency.

I have provided my information for others to decide after its has been individually reviewed. Its not my job to educate others, but always to provide a source for them to start to do their own research.

I don’t agree we have any real capability to meet NetZero in any time frame that can be set as a goal. Replacing existing energy systems will take a lot of time and many of the existing suggestions are not viable for a modern economy. In many cases we have far more important policy subjects than changing our energy sources.

Always happy to debate but this is my position and that of many scientists now called climate realists, and their position is fast being adopted by many new governments.

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